TESTIMONY OF RUTH HYDE PAINE RESUMED (continued 2)

Mrs. Paine. That's correct.

Mr. Jenner. Is that correct, Mr. Howlett?

Agent Howlett. Yes, sir; that's correct.

Mr. Jenner. Painted or enameled white?

Agent Howlett. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Would you reach back there and take out what appears to be a curtain rod, Mr. Howlett—how many do you have there?

Agent Howlett. There are two curtain rods, one a white and the other a kind of buff color or cream colored.

Mr. Jenner. Now, would you please search the rest of that shelf and see if you can find any other curtain rods or anything similar to the curtain rods, and look on the bottom shelves, Mr. Howlett, will you please?

While he is doing that, Mrs. Paine, I notice there is on your garage floor what looks like a file casing you have for documents similar, at least it seems substantially identical to those that we had in Washington last week.

Mrs. Paine. This is a filing case similar, yes, slightly different in color to one that you had in Washington. It contains madrigal music. It was on November 22 at the apartment where my husband was living.

Agent Howlett. I have just finished searching both shelves and I don't find any other curtain rods.

Mr. Jenner. Mrs. Paine, are the curtain rods that Mr. Howlett has taken down from the lower of the two shelves, the two curtain rods to which you made reference in your testimony before the Commission last week?

Mrs. Paine. Yes; they are.

Mr. Jenner. And you know of no other curtain rods, do you, in your garage during the fall of 1963?

Mrs. Paine. No; I do not.

Mr. Jenner. And in particular, no other curtain rods in your garage at any time on the 21st or 22d of November 1963?

Mrs. Paine. None whatsoever.

Mr. Jenner. May we take these curtain rods and mark them as exhibits and we will return them after they have been placed of record?

Mrs. Paine. All right.

Mr. Jenner. Miss Reporter, the cream colored curtain rod, we will mark Ruth Paine Exhibit 275 and the white one as Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 276.

(The curtain rods referred to were at this time marked by the reporter as Ruth Paine Exhibit Nos. 275 and 276, for identification.)

Mr. Jenner. Since we will have the exact physical exhibits we don't have to measure them, but perhaps for somebody who is reading the record, Mr. Howlett, your suggestion that we measure them is not a bad one. Let me describe the configuration of these rods. They are very light weight—what would you say that metal is, Mr. Howlett, tin—heavy tin?

Agent Howlett. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. They are the sliding or extension type, one fitting into the other when closed entirely, measuring from upended tip to upended tip they are——

Agent Howlett. The white one is 2 feet 3½ inches.

Mr. Jenner. And the cream colored one measured in the like fashion?

Agent Howlett. It is 2 feet 3½ inches.

Mr. Jenner. These curtain rods—the ends of each of them are turned. Those ends extending are turned up how many inches?

Agent Howlett. About 2 inches measuring from the inside of the curtain rod.

Mr. Jenner. On the cream colored one, and what about the white one?

Agent Howlett. Yes; on the cream colored one and the white one measures about 2-3/8 inches.

Mr. Jenner. Now, these curtain rods with the ends turned up form a "U," do they not, a long "U"?

Agent Howlett. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Now, Mrs. Paine, we have only remaining the one other item to which you have called our attention and that is the correspondence between you and Marina Oswald subsequent to November 22, 1963.

Mrs. Paine. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Have you been able to assemble that correspondence for me?

Mrs. Paine. I appear only to have the translation.

Mr. Jenner. I beg your pardon?

Mrs. Paine. I appear only to have the translation.

Mr. Jenner. You appear only to have the translation—will you explain that remark?

Mrs. Paine. The correspondence you refer to is all by me, with the exception of one Christmas card from Marina.

Mr. Jenner. When it is by you, you mean it is correspondence you transmitted to her and therefore you do not have the originals?

Mrs. Paine. I thought I had the rough draft of what I wrote—I appear only to have a translation of that rough draft. I made a translation for several of these—I made a translation at the time and sent them off.

Mr. Jenner. At the time you prepared the originals?

Mrs. Paine. That's right.

Mr. Jenner. May I have the translations?

Mrs. Paine. Yes; you may.