NINTH CONGRESS.—SECOND SESSION. PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. (continued 4)
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Mr. Elmer said he should vote for the postponement of the resolution. It had been under discussion for three days, and he did not perceive they were nearer a result than on the first day. Was it discreet to refer this resolution to a select committee, when it was manifest they could not go through the business without neglecting important business already before them? He should also vote for the postponement, as, although three days had been taken up in the discussion, he had not heard any one gentleman urge a single reason to show the necessity of any additional provisions. This very transaction, he believed, would ultimately turn out beneficial to the United States, notwithstanding the arts of ambitious men. It would display such a striking regard of the people to the government of their choice, as to prevent any like attempts in future. Mr. E. said he did not know whether General Wilkinson was a conspirator, but in this case he did not see that the constitution had been so flagrantly violated. Take the case of a conspiracy against the constitution, to level and destroy the constitution altogether, and directed towards the garrison which General Wilkinson commanded, in a remote part of the United States, and distant from any strength to support him. If we consider the question in this view, that the lives and property of the citizens were at stake, and even the judges engaged with the conspirators, was it improper to take up these men and send them to a place where they could be impartially tried? Let gentlemen, said Mr. E., pass as sanguinary laws as they please, if I considered the judges concerned, and were satisfied there were conspirators within, I would arrest them, though death were the consequence, and I am persuaded every officer faithful to his trust, would do the same thing. I admit that in all cases, except of the greatest emergency, the military ought to give way to the civil power. With regard, however, to what gentlemen call the audacity of sending these people here, in the face of the legislative body, I confess I entertain a different opinion. In cases of military arrest, I am most afraid of secrecy. Does not publicity, as far as it goes, show a good conscience? Does it not show the wish of the Commander-in-chief that his conduct should be examined in the face of the nation, conscious that, on a full examination, he will appear to have acted as a good officer and an honest man? As I have said before, I do not know that he is honest. I know that he has been charged with being a conspirator, but on this point we have no proof before us.
Mr. Kelly said, in order to obtain a right understanding of the subject, it is necessary to inquire how this inestimable privilege was secured to the subjects of Great Britain by Magna Charta, the great charter of their privileges, which was extorted sword in hand by the Lords and Barons, from King John at Runnymede, and how far the privilege thus secured, was made more effectual by the statute of Charles II., which was called the second great charter of their liberties. This writ of habeas corpus ad subjiciendum, which was secured by this charter, became a writ of right, not less secured to the subjects of that kingdom than the same is secured to our citizens by our constitution.
We are informed by Sir William Blackstone, in his famous commentaries on the English law, that the inestimable privilege of the writ of habeas corpus was of early date in Great Britain, almost coëval with the first rudiments of their constitution. The liberty of the subject could not be abridged in any case without special permission of law, although sometimes impaired by the usurpation of princes and the ferocity of particular times. It was, however, established on the firmest basis by the provisions of Magna Charta, and a long succession of statutes under Edward III., and was recognized by the Crown in several after reigns. And it will hardly be contended that this privilege is better secured to the citizens of the United States by our constitution, than the same was secured to the subjects of the British Crown by the provisions of Magna Charta. Yet abuses had crept into daily practice in England, which had in a great measure defeated this great constitutional remedy. The flagrant abuse of power by the Crown, generally, produced a struggle which discovered the exercise of that power to be contrary to law, or restrained it for the future. An obscure individual gave birth to the famous habeas corpus act in the reign of Charles II., which was justly called another Magna Charta of the kingdom. Francis Jenkes was committed by the Council Board for a turbulent speech made at a common hall assembled at Guildhall, for the purpose of choosing officers. He applied to the then Lord Chief Justice Kaimsford for a habeas corpus, who alleged that he could not grant the writ in vacation. The friends of the prisoner afterwards applied to the Lord Chancellor, who said the king would not grant it without a petition; application was afterwards made to the court of quarter sessions to have him bailed; the court said, there was no such name in the calendar; upon application to the jailer, he said he never returned any man committed by the Council Board. When a copy of the commitment was obtained, the jailer evaded making proof of it by going away, as was believed with the privity of the court; at length, the commitment being established, the court doubted their power to act, when the Lord Chief Justice and Lord Chancellor had refused, the court took time to consider of the application until next term. A petition was afterwards presented to the Lord Chancellor, who also took further time to consider; at length the Lord Chief Justice, upon the matter being suggested to the King, issued a habeas corpus, and the prisoner was discharged. To prevent similar abuses in future was the famous habeas corpus act passed, which regulated the mode of proceeding upon writs of habeas corpus, and fully ensured its benefits and provisions to the subject.
The question on indefinite postponement was then taken by yeas and nays, and carried—yeas 60, nays 58.
Friday, February 20.
Lewis and Clarke.
The House resumed the consideration of the unfinished business of Monday last, on the bill making compensation to Messrs. Lewis, Clarke, and their companions.
The bill grants land warrants, which may be either located or received at the land offices in payment of debts due there, at the rate of two dollars per acre. The bill grants these persons 24,960 acres.
A motion was made by Mr. Lyon to strike out so much as permits the receipt of these warrants at the land offices in payment of debts. This was opposed by Mr. Alston and supported by Messrs. Tallmadge, J. Clay, Quincy, Cook, Lyon, Ely, and D. R. Williams. It was contended that double pay was a liberal compensation, and that this grant was extravagant and beyond all former precedent. It was equivalent to taking more than $60,000 out of the Treasury, and might be perhaps three or four times that sum, as the grantees might go over all the Western country and locate their warrants on the best land, in 160 acre lots.
A motion to recommit the bill was made, and after considerable debate, was carried—ayes 66.
Wednesday, February 25.
Post Roads.
On motion of Mr. Thomas, the House proceeded to consider the Post Office bill.
Mr. J. Randolph observed that this was an extraordinary bill, and was passing in an extraordinary manner. It gave New Hampshire, Massachusetts, New York, and some other Northern States, a large number of post roads, and not one to Virginia. It was not wonderful that this subject was pressed on by certain gentlemen. If it would not be considered as too alarming a proof of Virginia influence on this floor, he would propose a new road from Prince Edward County, in the district which he represented, to Petersburg. Mr. R. spoke at considerable length.
Mr. Blount observed that many large counties in the Southern States had no post roads, while scarcely a town in the Northern States was without one.
Mr. Quincy repelled the suggestion of partiality by recurring to former laws and showing that the Southern States had been previously accommodated better than the Northern States.
Mr. J. Randolph said this was a new sort of political arithmetic. The gentleman from Vermont (Mr. Fisk) had said that three roads were discontinued in that State, and four only established, so that the gain was only one. In Virginia you discontinue four established roads, and give us no new one, though we have claimed several. We must work negative quantities; we are minus four. He wished to know how the equation was to be adjusted and managed. Mr. R. concluded a long speech by proposing a new section which went to forbid the carriers of the mail deviating from the old established routes, under penalty of twenty dollars for each offence.
This motion was intended to coerce the mail carriers to go through Colchester, and not through Occoquan, Virginia.
Thursday, February 26.
Claim of M. Beaumarchais.
Mr. Holmes, from the Committee of Claims, to whom was referred the Message of the President of the United States, transmitting a memorial of the French Minister, on the subject of the claim of Amelie Eugenie de Beaumarchais, heir and representative of the late Caron de Beaumarchais, made the following report:
This claim was presented to Congress at their last session by the agent of the representative of the late Caron de Beaumarchais, and a report was made thereon by the Committee of Claims, which was not finally acted upon by the House. The documents presented with that report, and the memorial of the French Minister, transmitted with the President’s Message, contain a full statement of all the material facts and principles involved in the consideration of the case. As the papers accompany the present report, your committee do not deem it necessary to detail particularly the circumstances attending the charge of one million of livres, made of the United States, in their account with Caron de Beaumarchais, (which is the foundation of the present application.) The claimants have uniformly contested the correctness of this charge, declaring that Mr. Beaumarchais has settled with the French Government for the same, conformably to the tenor of his receipt. The substance of this declaration is now confirmed by the French Government, through their Minister, in the following words:
“That the million given on the 10th of June, 1776, to M. de Beaumarchais, was employed in a secret service; that an account of it has been rendered to the King, and approved by him; and that it was not given on account of supplies furnished by the said Beaumarchais to the United States.”
The source whence this declaration proceeds renders it unnecessary to allude to any corroborative circumstances in support of the fact; but, as questions of law may arise in investigating the case, your committee think the course most consistent with the principles of justice, to which the United States have always adhered, would be to submit the claim generally to the consideration of the Secretary of State, with instructions to report to Congress at their next session; that he might consult the Attorney-General upon any questions of law arising in the course of the investigation, and furnish Congress with any other information that would tend to elucidate the subject. They therefore submit the following resolution:
Resolved, That the Message of the President of the United States, transmitting a memorial of the French Minister on the subject of the claim of Amelie Eugenie de Beaumarchais, legal representative of the late Caron de Beaumarchais, be referred to the Secretary of State, and that he be directed to report thereon to Congress at their next session.
The report was agreed to.
Friday, February 27.
Lewis and Clarke.
An engrossed bill making compensation to Messrs. Lewis and Clarke and their companions, was read the third time, and on the question that the said bill do pass, it was resolved in the affirmative—yeas 62, nays 23.
Monday, March 2.
Public Lands.
The House proceeded to consider the bill sent from the Senate, entitled “An act to prevent settlement being made on lands ceded to the United States, until authorized by law,” together with a report of the Committee on the Public Lands thereon.
Mr. Quincy moved its indefinite postponement. He observed that the provisions of the bill were highly important, and affected great constitutional questions, which it was not possible for the House to do justice to at so late a period of the session. The principle contained in the first section was, that the rights of all persons shall be forfeited, who shall undertake to settle on the public lands. This provision was not against trespassers, but was obviously intended to destroy the constitutional rights of those who had existing rights. The object of the bill was to defeat these constitutional rights. He had another objection to the bill. It went to forfeit the whole right to the land, in violation of the constitution, which expressly declares that “no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood or forfeiture, except during the life of the person attainted,”—and yet, under this law, it is undertaken, without any crime, to forfeit the rights of the individual, not only during his life, but likewise during that of his heirs. He had another constitutional objection. The constitution says, “nothing in this constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice the claims of the United States, or of any particular State.” Among the rights derived from the States, if the property has passed, is the right of possession. This bill is therefore an invasion of the rights of the States. There is another constitutional objection. The ninth article of the amendment to the constitution provides that “in suits at common law, when the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved.” Here the right is taken away in a question of the highest magnitude to the individual. The object of this law is nothing more or less than to build up the legislative power on the destruction of that of the Judiciary. There was another objection. The constitution says, “excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.” Here is an extensive fine imposed. Mr. Q. said it was impossible, in the time that remained, to do justice to this subject—he therefore hoped it would be indefinitely postponed.
Mr. Gregg said he had no intention, on a proposition to postpone, to go into a discussion of the merits of the bill; but he believed an attention to its provisions would obviate many of the objections raised against it. He would not attempt to justify the bill in all its minutiæ. He hoped, however, the gentleman would withdraw his motion; he would then have an opportunity, when the bill was taken up, to offer such amendments as might remove his objections. Mr. G. said he thought the propriety of such a bill was justified by the necessity of the case. The simple question was, whether the United States should derive any benefit from the public lands, or whether they should be given up to intruders. It must be known to every one that almost innumerable persons had settled down on the public lands without meaning to pay for them. Their object was to settle down on them for a while, to sell their improvements, and then make other settlements. Hence the absolute necessity of making some provision on the subject. Mr. G. said he had no particular part of the lands of the United States in view—he took the subject upon general grounds. He believed the intrusions were most numerous in the Indiana Territory; but there was no district in which they had not been made to a considerable extent. He did not pretend to say that this law was the best that could be passed on the subject—they might not however be able to get one much better. When taken up it would be in the power of gentlemen to offer such amendments as they pleased.
Mr. Olin said he hoped the gentleman from Massachusetts would not withdraw his motion. He believed no man would charge him with a design to cover certain fraudulent claims; but he trusted the principle contained in this bill would not be sanctioned. They were not a judicial body; and had not a right to take the ground assumed in the bill. They had formerly had an attempt made upon them to sanction claims founded in fraud, and he had voted against it. He should also vote against this bill; he would never agree that men should be dispossessed of their property in such a way.
Mr. Hastings spoke against the bill, and in favor of the indefinite postponement.
Mr. N. Williams considered the bill so objectionable that he could not vote for it; and as, from the short period of the session that remained, it was impossible to give it a proper attention, he would vote for the postponement. The first objection he should make to the bill was this—that it destroyed that right hitherto considered sacred, the right of asserting a claim to property—a right that was established and coëval with the laws of the country. Nothing was better settled than that an individual who claimed a right to a piece of property had a right to take possession of it, and hold it till deprived by process of law. Here that right is denied, and in the most exceptionable manner, by giving the President the power of judging when the rights of the United States are violated, and the power to dispossess by military force, before trial of the case. Mr. W. said this appeared to him a principle too tyrannical for them to adopt at the present day—to authorize the President to send a military force to deprive a man of his property, without leaving him any mode of trying his right. This was the very last act, which ought in no case to be resorted to, till the civil laws had been found insufficient. Mr. W. said he did not know that any such power had been ever exercised in Great Britain, or in any other country where less freedom was enjoyed. The military force ought only to be called out when the civil force was insufficient. This was not the only objection he had to the bill. The citizens were rendered liable by it to imprisonment and punishment, without due course of law, notwithstanding all they had lately heard of trial by jury, and the zeal manifested for it. More might be said, but as the time of the House was precious, he would forbear adding any thing further.
Mr. D. R. Williams hoped the motion would not prevail; and for the very reasons urged by gentlemen. If the details are defective, let us get at the bill—if the principle is defective, that indeed may be a reason for postponement; but any defect in the detail may be corrected. Mr. W. said he could not but congratulate gentlemen on their returning sensibility for the constitution. When their feelings had been harrowed up on a recent occasion, gentlemen had felt no sensibility for the constitution; but when they come to the adoption of a bill, which went to affect Yazooism, all their sensibility was roused. Against this different course he protested. The gentleman from Massachusetts had observed there were not many intruders on the public lands, but surely he could not have read the papers even of his capital, or he must have recollected a proposition made in them to raise and march ten thousand men to take possession of the public lands. Would he in the face of such a fact say there was no danger? But, say gentlemen, will you deprive individuals of their rights? And what are they aiming at? Are they not endeavoring to deprive you of your rights? The fact, however, is, if these people do not trespass on the public lands they will not be affected by this law; and if they do, they ought to be affected by it. As to the application of military force, that is not a new principle; as, under the Administration of General Washington, it was found necessary to vest the power.
Mr. Quincy.—I did not mean to argue the details of the bill on this question—I merely stated certain considerations to show that it was not proper at this time to discuss the principles contained in the bill. And I ask gentlemen, whether, from the temper which has been manifested, and the importance of the subject, it is possible to get through the bill during the present session? If gentlemen will sit still, and be as callous as they were lately, it may perhaps be carried through this session; but if it be properly discussed, it cannot. Gentlemen say we have no sensibility to constitutional questions, except on this occasion. On the subject, however, of Yazooism, I have not said a word. My remarks were general. I placed that and all other claims on the footing of the law. This bill applies to the whole of them.
The question was then taken by yeas and nays on the indefinite postponement of the bill—yeas 43, nays 68.
Mr. Quincy moved to strike out the following part of the first section of the bill:
“Such offender or offenders shall forfeit all of his or their right, title, and claim, if any he hath, or they have, of whatsoever nature or kind the same shall or may be, to the lands aforesaid, which he or they shall have taken possession of, or settled, or caused to be occupied, taken possession of, or settled, or which he or they shall have surveyed, or attempted to survey, or caused to be surveyed, or the boundaries thereof, he or they shall have designated, by marking trees or otherwise.”
He said so far as this section went to provide against trespasses, it was unnecessary; and so far as it went to operate against persons having rights to land, it was unconstitutional. So far as respected the former, the arm of the law was sufficiently strong, and they might be removed by its ordinary process. It was not contended that this law was meant to apply against them—it would be absurd to say so, when they alleged no rights. The truth was, this was a general law, made to suit a particular case. This had been acknowledged by the gentleman from Virginia. Mr. Q. said he believed no man would contend, that were it not for that case, such a law would pass. He believed making a general law for particular cases, unusual and unconstitutional.
Mr. Q. here recapitulated the constitutional objections which he before urged.
He observed that the gentleman from South Carolina had referred to a law passed in the year 1799, which prevented any settlement within the Indian boundaries. Could any gentleman compare the case with this? In that case a treaty had been made between the United States and the Indians, one of the provisions of which prevented any citizen from going within the Indian boundary. Mr. Q. said he would use but one other argument, which was, that this law would be a mere nullity. If individuals wished to try their title, as soon as the military attempted to remove them, the courts of justice would interfere; and this would decide the question of title which gentlemen seem afraid to meet.
Mr. Lyon supported the motion to strike out.
On which the question was taken by yeas and nays—yeas 35, nays 54.
Mr. Quincy offered the following proviso to the first section:
“Provided, also, That nothing in this act shall prevent any person claiming title to any such lands, under or by virtue of an act or grant of any State, from peaceably entering thereon, for the purpose of being enabled thereby to bring to a judicial decision at law or in equity the validity of the title so claimed.”
Mr. Quincy said he made this motion, because he considered this section no more nor less than levelled at the Judiciary of the United States; and that his vote might be recorded, he would ask for the yeas and nays.
The question was then taken by yeas and nays on the proviso, and decided in the negative—yeas 30, nays 64.
Mr. Fisk said, that rather than have such a principle introduced into the laws of the United States, as was contained in this bill, he would prefer seeing all the Yazoo land sunk in the sea. He had no idea of seeing the rights to property tried at the point of the bayonet. He had often heard the Yazoo represented as a wicked business. He believed it was such; but he had ever hoped that the Judiciary would not be affected by it. This was nothing more nor less than providing by an armed force to turn men off from the land they occupy, and to deprive them of their rights, if they had any. If they had no rights, it was unnecessary to introduce such a principle into the bill; and if they had, they were to be divested of them by an armed force, without a trial by jury. He would ask if this were constitutional? He would ask gentlemen where were the feelings which they had recently displayed for the rights of the people who had sent them here? He wished gentlemen to recollect the maxim they laid down, that it was immaterial who were the persons affected, the rights were the same, and their invasion as dangerous in the person of the lowest wretch as in that of the most exalted character. Mr. F. said he was decidedly against the bill, and should vote for its rejection.
The bill was immediately read the third time.
Mr. Lyon spoke against its passage.
When the question was taken on its passage by yeas and nays, and decided in the affirmative—yeas 57, nays 44.
Tuesday, March 3.
The bill sent from the Senate, entitled “An act confirming claims to land in the district of Vincennes,” together with the amendments agreed to yesterday, were read the third time, and passed.
Mr. Samuel Smith presented to the House a petition of sundry inhabitants of the State of Pennsylvania, praying an amendment to the second section of the third article of the Constitution of the United States, which extends the judicial power of the United States “to controversies between citizens of different States, between citizens of the same State claiming lands under grants of different States, and between a State or the citizens thereof and foreign States, citizens, or subjects.”—Laid on the table.
The further consideration of the bill sent from the Senate, entitled “An act to explain the act, entitled ‘An act supplementary to an act, entitled “An act to divide the territory of the United States north-west of the river Ohio into two separate Governments,”’” was postponed indefinitely.
The House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the bill in addition to an act, entitled “An act in addition to an act, entitled ‘An act supplementary to the act providing for a Naval Peace Establishment, and for other purposes.’” The bill was reported with an amendment thereto; which was read, and agreed to by the House.
Eodem Die, half past 6 o’clock.
A message from the Senate informed the House that the Senate have passed a bill, entitled “An act repealing the acts laying duties on salt, and continuing in force, for a further time, the first section of the act, entitled ‘An act further to protect the commerce and seamen of the United States against the Barbary Powers,’” with an amendment; to which they desire the concurrence of this House.
Ordered, That the farther consideration of the bill for the relief of Edward Weld and Samuel Bebee be postponed indefinitely.
The House proceeded to consider the amendment proposed by the Senate to the bill, entitled “An act repealing the acts laying duties on salt, and continuing in force, for a further time, the first section of the act, entitled ‘An act further to protect the commerce and seamen of the United States against the Barbary Powers;’” and the same being again twice read, was, on the question put thereupon, agreed to by the House.
An engrossed bill making compensation for extra services to the Governor, Judges, and Secretary of the Indiana Territory, was read the third time, and passed.
Resolved, That the Clerk of the House of Representatives be directed, within one month after the close of the present session of Congress, to advertise three weeks successively, in two newspapers, printed in the District of Columbia, that he is ready to receive separate proposals for supplying the House of Representatives, for the next Congress, with the necessary stationery, printing, and wood for fuel, in manner prescribed by two resolutions, passed by the House of Representatives, the first on the twenty-eighth of February, one thousand eight hundred and five, and the other on the twenty-first of April, one thousand eight hundred and six.
Thanks to the Speaker, and Adjournment.
On motion of Mr. Gregg, it was resolved unanimously, that the thanks of this House be presented to Nathaniel Macon, in testimony of their approbation of his conduct in the discharge of the arduous and important duties assigned to him whilst in the Chair: Whereupon,
Mr. Speaker made his acknowledgments to the House, in manner following:
“Gentlemen: It has been my constant endeavor to perform faithfully the promise made to you two years ago, to discharge the trust reposed in me with industry and fidelity. For the resolution which you have this minute passed, I earnestly beg of you to accept my sincere thanks; permit me also to assure you, that it will be always remembered with gratitude. I wish you safe home, and a happy meeting with your friends.”
Mr. Varnum, from the committee appointed on the part of this House, jointly with the committee appointed on the part of the Senate, to wait on the President of the United States, and notify him of the proposed recess of Congress, reported that the committee had performed that service, and that the President signified to them he had no farther communication to make during the present session.
Ordered, That a message he sent to the Senate to inform them that this House, having completed the business before them, are now about to adjourn without day; and that the Clerk of this House do go with the said message. The Clerk accordingly went with the said message; and, being returned, Mr. Speaker adjourned the House sine die.